Comments on: It’s worth bothering to get angry at Express scum http://enemiesofreason.co.uk/2010/07/08/its-worth-bothering-to-get-angry-at-express-scum/ Poundshop potshots at the media moral maze. Fri, 03 Feb 2012 08:27:30 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: It’ll just get more right-wing if you pick at it « Cubik's Rube http://enemiesofreason.co.uk/2010/07/08/its-worth-bothering-to-get-angry-at-express-scum/comment-page-1/#comment-6868 It’ll just get more right-wing if you pick at it « Cubik's Rube Thu, 12 Aug 2010 19:32:54 +0000 http://enemiesofreason.co.uk/?p=2311#comment-6868 [...] See also Anton Vowl’s thoughts. [...] [...] See also Anton Vowl’s thoughts. [...]

]]> By: sianushka http://enemiesofreason.co.uk/2010/07/08/its-worth-bothering-to-get-angry-at-express-scum/comment-page-1/#comment-6181 sianushka Mon, 12 Jul 2010 10:56:13 +0000 http://enemiesofreason.co.uk/?p=2311#comment-6181 well said. well said.

]]> By: Law and Media Round Up 11 July 2010 « Inforrm's Blog http://enemiesofreason.co.uk/2010/07/08/its-worth-bothering-to-get-angry-at-express-scum/comment-page-1/#comment-6153 Law and Media Round Up 11 July 2010 « Inforrm's Blog Sun, 11 Jul 2010 09:43:58 +0000 http://enemiesofreason.co.uk/?p=2311#comment-6153 [...] The interesting press coverage of the Supreme Court’s asylum decision in HJ (Iran) has been the subject of some analysis on the blogs.   Reader will be aware that the Court decided that gay asylum seekers who risked persecution could not be expected to avoid it by hiding their sexuality. The case is discussed on the UK Human Rights blog.   The tabloid press were not persuaded:  the Daily Express’ headline was “Now asylum if you’re gay” while the Daily Mail had  the headline “Supreme Court Judge says homosexual asylum seekers should be allowed to stay because ‘gays must be free to enjoy Kylie concerts and cocktails‘.  The tabloid misrepresentation of the decision is incisively analysed by Tabloid Watch while Enemies of Reason has a trenchant post entitled “It’s worth bothering to get angry at Express scum“ [...] [...] The interesting press coverage of the Supreme Court’s asylum decision in HJ (Iran) has been the subject of some analysis on the blogs.   Reader will be aware that the Court decided that gay asylum seekers who risked persecution could not be expected to avoid it by hiding their sexuality. The case is discussed on the UK Human Rights blog.   The tabloid press were not persuaded:  the Daily Express’ headline was “Now asylum if you’re gay” while the Daily Mail had  the headline “Supreme Court Judge says homosexual asylum seekers should be allowed to stay because ‘gays must be free to enjoy Kylie concerts and cocktails‘.  The tabloid misrepresentation of the decision is incisively analysed by Tabloid Watch while Enemies of Reason has a trenchant post entitled “It’s worth bothering to get angry at Express scum“ [...]

]]> By: RT http://enemiesofreason.co.uk/2010/07/08/its-worth-bothering-to-get-angry-at-express-scum/comment-page-1/#comment-6147 RT Sat, 10 Jul 2010 14:21:06 +0000 http://enemiesofreason.co.uk/?p=2311#comment-6147 I like Sir Andrew's comment: "This could lead to a potentially massive expansion of asylum claims as it could apply to literally millions around the world. An applicant has now only to show that he [or she] is homosexual and intends to return and live openly in one of the many countries where it is illegal, to be granted asylum in the UK." Yes. Yes, that might even be the point of the worldwide refugee regime in the first place. I imagine in 1951 he would have claimed that "An applicant only has to prove that he is a democracy activist and intends to return and live openly in one of the many countries where it is illegal." I really, really, really want a MigrationWatchWatch. Their pseudo-science, weird assumptions and distortions are widely-accepted because there is no group with their connections and PR that can publicize debunking of their migration myths, with the result that they become mainstream. It's very worrying I like Sir Andrew’s comment: “This could lead to a potentially massive expansion of asylum claims as it could apply to literally millions around the world.

An applicant has now only to show that he [or she] is homosexual and intends to return and live openly in one of the many countries where it is illegal, to be granted asylum in the UK.”

Yes. Yes, that might even be the point of the worldwide refugee regime in the first place. I imagine in 1951 he would have claimed that “An applicant only has to prove that he is a democracy activist and intends to return and live openly in one of the many countries where it is illegal.”

I really, really, really want a MigrationWatchWatch. Their pseudo-science, weird assumptions and distortions are widely-accepted because there is no group with their connections and PR that can publicize debunking of their migration myths, with the result that they become mainstream. It’s very worrying

]]> By: Daily Express – Letting in foreigners is bad enough. But GAY foreigners??? *splutters* « Paperback Rioter http://enemiesofreason.co.uk/2010/07/08/its-worth-bothering-to-get-angry-at-express-scum/comment-page-1/#comment-6108 Daily Express – Letting in foreigners is bad enough. But GAY foreigners??? *splutters* « Paperback Rioter Fri, 09 Jul 2010 13:03:30 +0000 http://enemiesofreason.co.uk/?p=2311#comment-6108 [...] are great demolitions of this hysteria here and here. Some of the links in the latter piece are must-reads. The Enemies of Reason piece is so [...] [...] are great demolitions of this hysteria here and here. Some of the links in the latter piece are must-reads. The Enemies of Reason piece is so [...]

]]> By: A Lesbian Sold You That http://enemiesofreason.co.uk/2010/07/08/its-worth-bothering-to-get-angry-at-express-scum/comment-page-1/#comment-6103 A Lesbian Sold You That Fri, 09 Jul 2010 11:31:16 +0000 http://enemiesofreason.co.uk/?p=2311#comment-6103 I complained to the PCC... I also went to the 'contact' section of the Express and sent this email to every single email address on there.... Hi, Following the cover story the Express ran yesterday ('NOW ASYLUM IF YOU'RE GAY') and the delightful online story today by Leo McKinstry ('NOW BEING A FAN OF KYLIE WINS YOU THE RIGHT TO ASYLUM'), I am curious how you feel about working for the Express? Those of you with a picture next to your email in the 'contact' section look like reasonable, open minded people so it surprises me that you work for the Express. I appreciate that we all need to work for a living, and you have bills to pay just like anyone else, but earning that money by working for what is effectively a hate-mongering organization must feel strange no? When decent human beings who happen to be gay are beaten up because your employer has fueled the hatred amongst ignorant people by misrepresenting the facts do you consider resigning? The lazy, highly inaccurate reporting of your fellow journalists (and I use that term loosely) is extremely impressive, and it is with this in mind that I felt compelled to lodge a complaint with the Press Complaints Commission. I'm an extremely busy person and have never lodged a complaint so I hope that puts into context how upset I am by these stories. Please don't think the Express deals in 'news'. It deals in inciting hatred, be it on the grounds of race or sexuality (the Express specializes in both). The opinions expressed are utterly appalling and, frankly laughable. Except it's not funny when people's welfare and the right to live in peace is in the balance. I suggest you take a look at this blog to regain some sort of balance to your lives: http://enemiesofreason.co.uk/2010/07/08/its-worth-bothering-to-get-angry-at-express-scum/ Kind regards. I complained to the PCC…
I also went to the ‘contact’ section of the Express and sent this email to every single email address on there….

Hi,

Following the cover story the Express ran yesterday (‘NOW ASYLUM IF YOU’RE GAY’) and the delightful online story today by Leo McKinstry (‘NOW BEING A FAN OF KYLIE WINS YOU THE RIGHT TO ASYLUM’), I am curious how you feel about working for the Express?

Those of you with a picture next to your email in the ‘contact’ section look like reasonable, open minded people so it surprises me that you work for the Express. I appreciate that we all need to work for a living, and you have bills to pay just like anyone else, but earning that money by working for what is effectively a hate-mongering organization must feel strange no? When decent human beings who happen to be gay are beaten up because your employer has fueled the hatred amongst ignorant people by misrepresenting the facts do you consider resigning?

The lazy, highly inaccurate reporting of your fellow journalists (and I use that term loosely) is extremely impressive, and it is with this in mind that I felt compelled to lodge a complaint with the Press Complaints Commission. I’m an extremely busy person and have never lodged a complaint so I hope that puts into context how upset I am by these stories.

Please don’t think the Express deals in ‘news’. It deals in inciting hatred, be it on the grounds of race or sexuality (the Express specializes in both). The opinions expressed are utterly appalling and, frankly laughable. Except it’s not funny when people’s welfare and the right to live in peace is in the balance.

I suggest you take a look at this blog to regain some sort of balance to your lives:
http://enemiesofreason.co.uk/2010/07/08/its-worth-bothering-to-get-angry-at-express-scum/

Kind regards.

]]> By: John http://enemiesofreason.co.uk/2010/07/08/its-worth-bothering-to-get-angry-at-express-scum/comment-page-1/#comment-6101 John Fri, 09 Jul 2010 11:28:08 +0000 http://enemiesofreason.co.uk/?p=2311#comment-6101 No self doubt allowed. Keep blogging. No self doubt allowed. Keep blogging.

]]> By: A Lesbian Sold You That http://enemiesofreason.co.uk/2010/07/08/its-worth-bothering-to-get-angry-at-express-scum/comment-page-1/#comment-6088 A Lesbian Sold You That Fri, 09 Jul 2010 09:14:02 +0000 http://enemiesofreason.co.uk/?p=2311#comment-6088 Totally agree with your points - great post. In response to Suva: yes, this is true - there are lots of people in this country who harbour homophobic views, and yes this scum-reporting lights their touch paper. But that's why it's even more important to react against it so those people see, and realise, that these view points are unacceptable. They can't be left to feel that their views are somehow vindicated by this appalling nonsense they read. Totally agree with your points – great post.

In response to Suva: yes, this is true – there are lots of people in this country who harbour homophobic views, and yes this scum-reporting lights their touch paper. But that’s why it’s even more important to react against it so those people see, and realise, that these view points are unacceptable. They can’t be left to feel that their views are somehow vindicated by this appalling nonsense they read.

]]> By: Banner http://enemiesofreason.co.uk/2010/07/08/its-worth-bothering-to-get-angry-at-express-scum/comment-page-1/#comment-6087 Banner Fri, 09 Jul 2010 09:09:49 +0000 http://enemiesofreason.co.uk/?p=2311#comment-6087 This is a really intelligent, reasoned, sensitive, principled statement from the judge. It makes me feel a bit ill that the Express can selectively quote from it to create such a poisonous front page. Even more shame on them. This is a really intelligent, reasoned, sensitive, principled statement from the judge. It makes me feel a bit ill that the Express can selectively quote from it to create such a poisonous front page. Even more shame on them.

]]> By: The Don http://enemiesofreason.co.uk/2010/07/08/its-worth-bothering-to-get-angry-at-express-scum/comment-page-1/#comment-6081 The Don Fri, 09 Jul 2010 08:33:10 +0000 http://enemiesofreason.co.uk/?p=2311#comment-6081 Somehow we managed to get a response out of Peter Hill on this one... http://rentist.co.uk/?p=1008 Somehow we managed to get a response out of Peter Hill on this one…

http://rentist.co.uk/?p=1008

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