Comments on: 7 days without the Mail

By: rossywar

rossywar — Wed, 10 Mar 2010 18:22:26 +0000

Thanks! I had a vision of hooded youths literally steaming, fogging up trains with condensation. Or brandishing irons and getting the creases out of your clothes. But in an aggressive way.

By: Evil Edwin

Evil Edwin — Tue, 09 Mar 2010 20:39:42 +0000

I heard a brilliant quote from the TV series Heroes, of all places, which I think hits the nail on the head with regards to the Mail and Express:

“It’s easier to fear than to understand”.

By: Charlie

Charlie — Tue, 09 Mar 2010 20:04:50 +0000

I would say that none of these fears are new. You only have to look at victorian times (if not before) when inner cities were seen as centres of hellish violence and poverty – which arguably they were – and that kids today were corrupt threat to the fabric of society. And that immigrants were the devil. It’s basic-ish hjuman nature unfortunately and only those with a wider sense of perspective can see it for the lazy thinking that it is.

Good article.

By: Racist Violence « Left Outside

Racist Violence « Left Outside — Tue, 09 Mar 2010 19:12:50 +0000

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By: cowbutt

cowbutt — Tue, 09 Mar 2010 18:46:33 +0000

I think the Mail and its ilk tap into deeper trends running through British society.

Firstly, many people – of the left as well as the right/Conservative/UKIP/BNP – seem to be obsessed with the idea that others might be getting something they aren’t, and ignoring whether they have *enough* to be comfortable.

Secondly, many people expect liberal treatment when they or their close family transgress society’s norms, rules and laws, but expect draconian authoritarianism (“hang ‘em up an’ shoot ‘em!”) when others do the same.

I think these trends may be new-ish (cf. Adam Curtis’ “Century of the Self” documentary series). The question is, how can those of us who want a tolerant, rational, peaceful, productive society change them?

By: Daniel Hoffmann-Gill

Daniel Hoffmann-Gill — Tue, 09 Mar 2010 17:33:38 +0000

Many of us live in no-Daily Mail land, it is a great place with rare visitations from Daily Mail shithole inhabitants.

As for your commentator, I got a lot of those types over at mine, as does pretty much any BNP thread over at Liberal Conspiracy, which is a shame, do agree though, that these folks that they represent the majority view and get very upset when that is shown to not be the case.

By: black steaming gangs « literally another aussie in london

black steaming gangs « literally another aussie in london — Tue, 09 Mar 2010 16:51:17 +0000

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By: George Allwell

George Allwell — Tue, 09 Mar 2010 15:54:07 +0000

I am white. I’m from the north, not London, north Halifax. I have been attacked twice, and, surprisingly, in a predominantly ‘Asian’ area of Halifax, both occasions were by white, young, shaven-headed, men. Both were probably steaming in the pissed and out of and faces sense of the word. I still like white people though. And I’m young-ish.

Just in case ‘Blacksticks’ wanted some evidence. I could send him a lovely photo of the permanent scar running up my right leg if he so wishes. Although I suspect evidence to disapprove his “There are lots of racial attacks on white people” would be ignored.

What does it make you if your a whitey attacking a whitey? Whiteyist? Traitorist. Or a violent cunt?

By: JP

JP — Tue, 09 Mar 2010 15:23:54 +0000

I think you’ve hit the nail on the head there. People turn to papers like the Mail because they offer them a scapegoat. ‘Not got that promotion you wanted? It’s because it’s gone to a nasty immigrant, not because you’re not good enough! Women don’t want to sleep with you? It’s because of those crazy feminists, not because you’re a misogynistic, racist idiot! Prospect of not being able to perve on underage girls wearing short school skirts anymore? It’s because of the trannies and Harriet Harman and NuLab all joining forces in one massive, world-ending, PC-gone mad, couldn’t-make-it-up-women-lying-about-rape-government-handing-millions-of-pounds-in-cash-to-every-single-immigrant-they-want-to-destroy-britain DYSTOPIA AND GUESS WHO’S PAYING!!!!!ONEONE!!!1111!’ etc etc etc.

By: Anton Vowl

Anton Vowl — Tue, 09 Mar 2010 15:11:49 +0000

As I understand it ‘steaming’ originally meant a group of robbers running through a shopping area, train etc and taking as much stuff as they can from people on the way, but I think it’s come to mean simply mugging. I think so, anyway, but I could be wrong. It’s one of those odd policey bits of terminology that I don’t think has been explained particularly well.